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Even if Palin deeply wants to convert every jew to Christianity when would she even have the time and legal means to initiate such frivilous idealism with all that’s going in the world and at home.

If she doesn’t have a hundred more serious priorities on her mind she has no business running for the federal government. And I’m sure she does, evangilist Christian and all.

Sam, I think you miss the point. Palin belongs to a class of people who overtly conflate religion with politics/government. The goal is nothing less than a desire to influence government to the point of theocracy. Limited or not, a theocracy is still a theocracy and while dissenters may be permitted to have their own beliefs and worship as they please, the laws will be based on fundamentalist/orthodox Christian dogma which means non-aherents will need to abide by religious based regulations. This is not exactly the freedom of religion that was part of the agreement to get the founding fathers to support the declaration of independence or the constitution – some of them may have wanted to enforce a Christian nation but to have a United States they had to put that aside.

The Jews for Jesus members clearly cross boundaries, in my opinion, in trying to mislead people as to their real cause. The “Rabbis”, themselves, with their doctrine, are an affront to Judaism.

Thank you for the post, 1Rabbi.

Even if Palin deeply wants to convert every jew to Christianity when would she even have the time and legal means to initiate such frivilous idealism with all that’s going in the world and at home.

If she doesn’t have a hundred more serious priorities on her mind she has no business running for the federal government. And I’m sure she does, evangilist Christian and all.

By the way, to Chrisitian enthusiasts, you calim Jesus in the personal son of G-d, or G-d himeself, and that has no basis in judiasm; it as an affront and an assault on judiasm.

Thanks for these comments.

I know they try to make a distinction between their movements (hard to when they ultimately share the same goal), but they and Messianic Jews on the whole represent such potential for fracture within Jewish communities, by poaching those that live on our fringes: elderly, uneducated/unaffiliated, youth isolated from communities during college/military.

I’ve blogged about it in the past, the evangelical-friendly climate created at the Pentagon has landed the Army with its first Messianic “Jewish” chaplain. This already spurred a “who’s the real Jew” situation with regards to Pesach supplies in the Iraqi theater, when this “rabbi” pilfered a kit belonging to an Orthodox surgeon. This “rabbi” was even invited to represent the Jewish voice at 3rd Infantry Division’s Holocaust Remembrance observance, highlighting a very real concern that the average American cannot understand the distinction between our groups.

What scares me is that mere membership of Palin in a church that is sympathetic to Jews for Jesus may confer even more legitimacy to a movement that represents harm to Jewish communities, however she distances herself from Brickner’s speech.

Clearly, with the Establishment Clause both working for and against us in this case, we depend heavily on the Christian community to keep these people on the fringes where they belong.

Is this the first time a presidential or vice presidential candidate has been in the presence of these deceptive groups?

Thanks for the link. While in the Navy Chaplain Corps I served with colleagues from the Assembly of G-d churches. They all tried to convert me (even though accepting others is part of the chaplain corps values) and talked about violence against Jews as evidence of judgement from G-d. Those interactions suggested to me Brickner’s ideas are mainstream and not new to Palin.

1rabbi

However, not everyone is convinced that she will be able to separate Church and State and run a secular government acc to the US Constitution.

I respect your right to believe whatever you want to believe. Believing as one chooses/is called to be is a blessing and a gift.

G-d teaches in the Torah or Jewish Bible in Leviticus 19:26 that each person must “Love your neighbor as yourself.” These words do not mean ‘Love your neighbor only if he/she agrees with you.’ These words do NOT mean ‘Love your neighbor by trying to convert them to agree with you.’ For you to take your belief and force them on someone else to “save their soul” is hubris and assumes that you have the only answer. Why would G-d create the world in such a way that there are many religions, cultures and means to belief if G-d only wanted people to believe in one narrow way?

Jews who live a good life filled with the commandments, with G-d’s love and with care for every person (Judaism teaches that every person is created in the image of G-d [even those who hate us or want to convert us]), such Jews will be with G-d in the world to come.

Please respect my right to believe as I do, please do not try to save me or convert me. When you and your colleagues do this, all you do is make me think less of your understanding of Christianity.

With respect,
1rabbi

(By the way, Judaism teaches to treat G-d’s name with reverence. We only fully write out G-d’s name in any language when used for a holy purpose (prayer book, Torah, Talmud, modern commentaries, etc).)